… to say that the United States is better off staying out of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
Unfortunately, our public “debate” is so awful that people get away with saying that sort of thing.
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… to say that the United States is better off staying out of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
Unfortunately, our public “debate” is so awful that people get away with saying that sort of thing.
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It means that you are indifferent to Russia encroaching on America’s sphere of interest.
Since when is Ukraine part of our “sphere of interest”? Some people argue that this conflict started because the west has been encroaching on Russia’s sphere of interest. I’m not saying that’s right or wrong, but I am saying it’s a legit position to take, and does not make a person pro-Russia.
Ukraine borders on Nato countries which are within America’s sphere of interest. Obviously we want to keep an obviously hostile force as distance as possible from that sphere. When the Soviet Union broke up it was obvious to “conservatives” that an expansion of NATO was good and certainly that a threat to it is bad. It is by default pro-Russia if you are indifferent to this situation. Not at all legit from an understanding of American foreign policy as it has developed for a good many decades. Trump and FOX have unfortunately generated a feel-good ignorance about such matters.
The “don’t provoke Russia” perspective has been promoted by lots of people who are not partisan conservatives. Your position on this is very uninformed.
It has been the prevailing position among conservatives for a very long time. Surely there have been some non-conservatives a similar view, but not as widespread and not nearly as shrill. That is obvious to all informed observers.
The video and articles in this post make it quite clear that the idea that the west has been provoking Russia is not a Trump or Fox News invention, nor is it limited to people on the right. (Brookings is not on the right.)
Generally, what’s the conservative position on US involvement in foreign affairs/conflicts? It wasn’t so long ago it was considered advantageous for US involvement…such Israel and North Korea. In fact, some said the world was safer when the US was involved and/or leading. Now, it seems there’s a very hands off approach, especially as it pertains to Russia.
I don’t know if there’s a single conservative position, and I don’t particularly care. It seems those things flip around from time to time. Sometimes it’s one side that’s very pro-war, then it’s the other side.
You could reasonably claim that an “America first” policy would be to spend all that money we’re sending to Ukraine on stopping the influx of fentanyl, stopping the Chinese from stealing our intellectual property, building more ships for the Navy, recruiting more pilots for the Air Force, or … any number of things. Believing that those things are a higher priority for our country is not the same as being pro-Putin or pro-Russia.
A senior Russian lawmaker has seemingly invited American states to secede and instead join the Russian Federation, amid polling showing support amongst Americans for their states to break away. I wonder if those that are so dissatisfied would be willing to accept the offer? That might be truly pro-Russia.
https://www.newsweek.com/american-states-that-wish-join-russia-will-considered-says-duma-member-1750336