117: Monarchies, plus Meghan

P&C drink and review St. Michael’s Amber Ale, then discuss monarchies.

They ask the obligatory question — is Meghan Markle oppressed? — then discuss Piers Morgan, and the royal clown show in general. They move on to an overview of the idea of monarchy, and whether such a thing is a good idea in the modern world.

It turns out that countries with constitutional monarchies do pretty well. P&C offer some ideas why that might be.

10 thoughts on “117: Monarchies, plus Meghan”

  1. Enjoyed the show. It’s no secret that I’m a monarchist, and I genuinely believe that if we could somehow simulate a whole bunch of possible histories with different peoples and different governments that constitutional monarchies would fare somewhat better long-term than republics.

    That said, I don’t know how much I’d want to conclude from the success of the examples you listed. I’d have been willing to bet that the Anglosphere and the Nordic countries were going to do pretty well based on their cultural legacies regardless of whether they were monarchies or republics. The republican members of those families like the United States and Finland seem to have done okay.

    Probably without looking deeper into it, the most I’d be confident in concluding from the evidence is that claims that being a monarchy is somehow incompatible with self-government, freedom, and economic success are false.

    1. I don’t know we went much beyond that. I think I said at least three times that I’m not advocating a monarchy, just that there are some things to be said for them, and that I wouldn’t be too quick to tear one down.

  2. Weird how conservatives now are in love with monarchies and Putin. Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison, and Reagan must be rolling over in their graves.

    1. So-called conservatives nowadays will embrace anything that they can use as a tool against the so-called woke, whether the tool may be foreign potentates, homegrown psychopathic presidents, mystical mumbo-jumbo from an academic whackjob, or (last but not least) hyper-Darwinism.

  3. Weird also is how one of the most secularized and indeed downright atheistic nations on this earth has a monarch who is also the head of their church.

    1. They always believed in diversity, namely the division of humanity into two kinds: people of high birth (culminating in the royal family itself) and scum. This aspect of Western civilization has never played out very well.

      1. I read on Twitter someone say something like, “The Royal Family cannot be racists because they’ve ruled over every type of race and ethnicity indiscriminately.”

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