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We took refugees from Afghanistan. We take tons of them across our southern border. Will we take Ukrainians?
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We took refugees from Afghanistan. We take tons of them across our southern border. Will we take Ukrainians?
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I don’t see why not. I hope we don’t have to. I hope the Ukrainians repel the Russians. Read all sorts of interesting stories coming from there. President not getting out but staying. Couples getting married early and both taking up arms. Miss Ukraine with a Kalashnikov. Though it’s rumored Putin is going to be using thermobaric bombs against the civilian population of Ukraine. I hope it turns out just to be a rumor. If he uses them, IDK if the rest of Europe are going to be hands off. Biden has said we aren’t going to be sending any troops. I wonder if we’re using drones there? I hope so. I hope we are using them against armored vehicles. IDK how effective they are against them.
Ukrainians would be the type of refugees repugs prefer. And we know why they’re preferred. No need to go into that.
If we had Afghans help our forces, we shouldn’t leave them there.
Have a Russian guy in my FB friend list–he lives in Tulsa, friend of Wayne P. Used to attend my parish. Usually have him silenced. Took a look today. Pro-invasion. “Ukrainians are nazis” so it’s totally justified. Last I looked, it’s Russian troops in Ukraine and not Ukrainian troops in Russia.
Are you implying that republicans would prefer Ukrainian refugees because they’re westerners, raised in a similar cultural and religious tradition, or are you implying that it’s because they’re white?
Imagine for a moment that Republicans were given a choice. We can allow 1 million blacks who were born and raised in England as Christians to immigrate, or we can allow 1 million whites who were born and raised in Afghanistan as Muslims to immigrate.
I also hope the Ukrainians repel the Russians, but I don’t think it will happen.
QUOTE: Imagine for a moment that Republicans were given a choice. We can allow 1 million blacks who were born and raised in England as Christians to immigrate, or we can allow 1 million whites who were born and raised in Afghanistan as Muslims to immigrate.
Which group do you think Republicans would choose? What gives you confidence that your opinion would be the “actual” choice of Republicans?
I think it’s very likely they would take the million black Christians, but the larger point is that race is not the only consideration, and is usually not the primary consideration — despite what the race hustlers want you to believe.
On what basis do you come to the conclusion about Republican’s choice…selecting the million black Christians?
Conclusion? I said I think it’s very likely — and the reason is that in my experience, when it comes to immigration, Republicans are far more concerned about cultural fit than they are about skin color. As a general rule — in my opinion — only leftist trolls and hucksters believe Republicans are obsessed with skin color.
Yes, a conclusion…which can be a reasoned judgment, deduction or inference. Isn’t that what you’ve done in stating what you feel is very likely? But, enough about semantics.
It’s interesting that you were the one that introduced the notion of race…before getting an answer from smitemouth about the basis of his commentary. Then, you went on to reference “race hustlers” in your further reply.
As well, I still don’t see anything that substantiates your view that it’s “cultural fit” vs. “race” that is the basis of Republican’s attitudes on the subject. How do you know what you speculate is accurate? Couldn’t it be all of the above and more? That said, I agree that it’s complex and multiple factors likely go into Republican’s views. What is clear is that Republicans generally don’t feel it’s the US’ responsibility to accept refugees and that view intensified over time. As well, under Republican leadership, the number of refugees admitted into the US fell.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/24/republicans-turn-more-negative-toward-refugees-as-number-admitted-to-u-s-plummets/
We do know how well Repugs like Christians from Mexico, Central and South America.
Their dear leader said he liked folks from Scandinavia. It’s not because of their Christianity because they are basically socialist atheists.
But there must be something different about the folks from Scandinavia vs Mexico, Central, and South America besides religion… but I just can’t sort it out.
You’re so caught up on your “everything is racism” mentality that you can’t see the error in your comparison. Republicans don’t like *illegal* immigrants from Mexico, etc.
What does legality or illegality have to do with it? Repugs don’t like legal elections. We saw that Jan 6. Liz Cheney has been censured by the Repugs. They like what they like and hate what they hate. They adore Eastern European brides that broke immigration laws. Even Fox News reported that. But not a problem…
To even ask “what does legality or illegality have to do with it?” shows that you are very out of touch with the way Republicans think and speak about immigration. Legality has everything to do with it.
This might be an exaggeration, but it’s not far from the truth. Every time I hear a Republican speak about immigration, he makes that distinction.
As well, if it’s about legality, it’s interesting there’s very little issue about those that “illegally” come from Canada. According to federal data in 2020 (prior to Covid), the number of people apprehended for illegally crossing from Canada nearly tripled over the prior three years. Per DHS, by the end of fiscal 2015, there were close to 483,000 people for whom there was no departure record or indication of an adjustment of status. Canada had the most suspected in-country illegal overstays, about 93,000. Interesting, Senator Lindsey Graham once stated, “ I’ve never met an illegal Canadian. They may be out there. I’ll go look for them…”. I supposed they are invisible to someone like Lindsey.
QUOTE: Republicans don’t like *illegal* immigrants from Mexico, etc.
When polled, 68% of Republican/Republican leaning people don’t believe the US has the responsibilities to accept refugees. Interestingly, the same rate (68%) is representative of white evangelical Protestants (highest subgroup). This seems to represent an attitude broader than what’s *illegal* about those allowed to come into the country.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/24/republicans-turn-more-negative-toward-refugees-as-number-admitted-to-u-s-plummets/
Did I mention racist? Where did I mention racism?
Actually, I was very careful not to mention it.
It may not all be racism, but racism does seem to be a major component.
As anticipated, your premonition has come to pass. It seems the Ukrainian refugees are being treated differently than Central American refugees. Why am I not surprised?
This is an interesting article featuring the perspective an individual that has a heritage in both Central America and Ukraine.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-03-20/ukraine-refugees-mexico-immigrants-border
QUOTE: Will the U.S. take refugees from Ukraine?
Yes, if it becomes necessary. Practically, the US can’t take all refugees. Yet, as feasible, it’s likely a good thing. From a cultural standpoint, especially by those that identify with Judaism and Christianity, it might be positive to reflect the attitude expressed in scripture relative to ancient Israel engaging foreigners/strangers.
Deuteronomy 10:18-19: “He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt.”
A very likely scenario is this: The Biden administration and Dems in general will be willing to take refugees from Ukraine. How can they refuse? The GOP will oppose this simply because the Dems favor it. Then on Fox we will see stories about incidents where Ukrainians commit crimes in the USA or about how they are hurting the economy. Basically the GOP is looking for anything they can use against Biden. There is of course a lack of honor in politics on all sides, but the GOP has taken it down to such a low level that they will do anything or say anything to bring down the Dems. They will praise Putin’s “genius” and bash Biden’s “weakness” in the same breath, as Trump recently did. They don’t care if there is a lack of consistency in their messaging, as long as it is heavily laced with malignance. They will blow hot and they will blow cold. But rest assured, they will BLOW.
Ladies and gentlemen…WE HAVE A WINNER!