17 thoughts on “Not that she needs my support or any more money …”

  1. It’s interesting to watch where people drop off. Being a quadrillionaire undoubtedly helps steel the spine.

  2. Well, they trans people have been waging war against her. She’s a feminist and they call her a TERF … trans exclusionary radical feminist … the “R” might be something else. She basically takes the opinion that trans women erase normal women. ( I won’t use CIS…that is just BS I refuse to use).

    They’ve been showing up outside where she lives trying to dox her address etc. Funny…it’s such a male thing to do…

    1. They’re doing some kind of Harry Potter reunion TV show and she has not been invited to participate, because of her “transphobic” stances.

      It’s disgusting, how many people are still going to the bank on her work and she won’t even be acknowledged in it anymore.

  3. This is beyond lunacy! It’s right up there with the ESPY Awards honoring Caitlyn Jenner. There it was on national TV, an audience giving a resounding ovation for a man being courageous to “come out” as a woman. Everyone KNEW the truth but also knew they would be cancelled, branded a hater and banished if they dared acknowledge that what they were viewing was indeed a man dressed as a woman. It felt like some queer new millennial version of The Emperor’s New Clothes!

    1. As for the case of Jenner, I bear in mind that effeminate men (“sissies” and the like) in the past, not even transgendered, had to suffer horrible verbal and physical abuse. I only have to think back to my teen years to recall of this disgraceful behavior towards people who didn’t quite fit the social norms regarding gender. So what’s worse? Such open and socially approved hostility? Or Jenner being praised for her beauty? I definitely think that the former is worse. Maybe we live in crazy times, but we shouldn’t forget that we come from brutal times. A little bit of crazy doesn’t bother me when I think of things in that manner. And for the record, there was actually a whole lot of crazy back then too.

      1. You’re missing an important detail here.

        In your former case, it’s kids picking on kids. Kids are notoriously awful to one another, and have to learn to be civil.

        In the latter case, you’re talking about adults.

        It’s not a fair comparison.

        1. It was plainly not only kids picking on kids. At least among us blue collar people it was very typical of a father to teach his son not to be a sissy, a pussy, a fag, a queer, etc. (All those labels often got mixed together.)

          An why do you think all those gay celebrities had to pretend that they were hetero?

      2. Or we could decide that choosing between two different ways of screwing people up is a ridiculous exercise.

        1. I have doubts about whether praising Jenner for her femininity, beauty, or whatnot really screws people up. If it does, however, it is at least considerably less abusive than the old ways of dealing with such matter.

          1. It does when people are intimidated to express what is factual. During that occasion, Jenner was a biological man dressed as a women. Had anyone noted that, they would have been cancelled and labeled as a hater….possibly lost their job and received death threats.

            1. In some quarters, e.g. on Fox News, one could quite easily have noted that and even ridiculed Jenner. It is in no way comparable to the blacklisting of gay people in the Mccarthy era or even state and local ordinances against homosexual men. Alan Turing in the UK had to undergo hormonal treatment simply because he was gay. And as I pointed out, there was a prevailing view that any effeminate behavior in a man indicated homosexuality (“limp wrist”).

              Another incident in the UK just occurred to me: Before the Beatles became popular in the USA John Lennon beat a journalist up very badly because he suggested (perhaps jokingly) that Lennon was gay.

              That made the press in the UK, but the Fab Four went on to make the greatest career in pop music ever. Just think about it. If Lennon had openly declared himself gay or even exhibited effeminate behavior in public, that would have been a huge scandal. But the fact that he flew into a violent rage and nearly beat a man to death in reaction to the suggestion that he was gay was no big deal. It made the papers, but no one batted an eye. Today a violent assault on another person would be regarded as a horrible thing, and it is indeed quite horrible. A culture in which people choose that over gayness in much worse than the current situation.

              1. My point is that both social responses are wrong and can be harmful. I’m not suggesting the damages are absolutely equal.

              2. But you don’t get to choose an ideal situation. So I find it comforting that things are better now. In my teens I started pursuing a rather intellectual education and career and had no interest in sports. That was rather suspect from the local redneck and blue-collar point of view. So I can empathize with the likes of Jenner.

      3. I agree there were some brutal realities for transgendered and effeminate men in the past. That was wrong and it should have been handled differently. Yet, having people “pretend” they are seeing something that they aren’t and then publicly “punishing” them for expressing a contrary view isn’t right either. Therefore, if people want to celebrate Jenner, so be it. Yet, those who have a different view shouldn’t be intimidated, cancelled and banished (as long as they aren’t abusive in their public response).

        1. I can agree with that. But I do think that the current situation is an improvement over a culture that did not only involve cancellation and banishment, but a good deal of truly horrible abuse.

          1. I can agree to that. Abuse, intimidation or threats should not be the result of expressing or advocating for one’s views publicly (on either side of an issue).

  4. QUOTE: So I find it comforting that things are better now. In my teens I started pursuing a rather intellectual education and career and had no interest in sports. That was rather suspect from the local redneck and blue-collar point of view. So I can empathize with the likes of Jenner.

    I agree that’s it’s a good thing the culture is better for the “suspect”, effeminate and transgender (and any who have been inappropriately “otherized”). Yet, I empathize with those who are treated wrongly on both sides of the issue.

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