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Is Alexander Dugin a real threat?

by Greg Krehbiel on 9 February 2017

There’s this guy named Alexander Dugin who is alleged to have an out-sized influence on Russia, and on Putin. If you can believe this article, he’s trying to create a Eurasian Union based on chaos and Satan worship, and his goal is the destruction of the west and the end of the world.

It sounds more like a comic book than real life, and it’s hard to know how much of this Alexander Dugin fear mongering to credit and how much to write off as crazy talk.

How should I know? But it got me thinking about the bureaucracy of intel. Specifically, for every up and coming lunatic out there (beyond a certain threshold of influence, of course), somebody has to be an expert on him — to dig into his mind, understand his influence, and worry about what Bad Things might come of it.

That person will tend to regard the lunatic as a Very Serious Threat, and will tend to harp about how we have to worry about him. (Nobody wants to spend their life studying an irrelevant lunatic, so the analyst will err on the side of taking him too seriously.)

Right down the hall from the Dugin expert you have the expert on the Trilateral Commission and the expert on The Family.

This is straight out of my imagination, but I’m seeing a whole wing of analysts who are experts in various fringe groups and ideologies, and are very agitated about them. Sitting above these concerned authorities on lunacy are a series of people who have to weigh whether any of this is serious or not, and pass on recommendations to people who actually do stuff.

Then … something happens. Lunatic group 714C pulls off some crazy stunt, and — to the chagrin of the chattering classes — we find out that “the American government was warned about 714C years ago.”

2017-02-09  »  Greg Krehbiel

Talkback x 9

  1. smitemouth
    9 February 2017 @ 3:30 pm

    Well, it’s ok because Putin is in charge, Putin is a good guy, Putin is Orthodox, and Putin lights candles in front of icons. Well, that’s what some acquaintances of mine think… but, they adore Trump too. Some of them can actually read and some even read NR. One has a blog. I’ll keep an eye out if they say anything.

    And, now, I will use quotes correctly which somehow eludes our president…. I think Putin is “Orthodox”.

    I searched some Orthodox forums and it’s sort of a mixed bag on Dugin. The Putin knob gobblers seem to like him. He seems more like an Igor Karkaroff to me. His technical religious affiliation seems to be Old Believer but in communion with the Moscow Patriarchate. He seems to be a Manichean and says only man can bring about the apocalypse and he wants the Russians to lead the way by defeating America. He’s sort of nutty like John Hagee who thinks man has to bring about the apocalypse too so he’s trying to breed red heifers in Israel because it’s some sort of sign. Sort of? I probably should say very nutty.

  2. Greg Krehbiel Greg Krehbiel
    9 February 2017 @ 3:38 pm

    The extent of my knowledge (information?) re: Putin and religion is this from Pat Buchanan.

    Vladimir Putin, who witnessed the death of Marxism-Leninism up close, appears to understand the cruciality of Christianity to Mother Russia, and seeks to revive the Orthodox Church and write its moral code back into Russian law.

    I’ve seen some conservative writers say that the godless Soviet Union has now turned into the Christian country some people claim the U.S.A. used to be.

    I’m suspicious of it all. I suspect Putin just wants to increase Russian power, and if Orthodoxy helps, so much the better.

    But I don’t know.

    I’ll take your word that Dugin is nutty. The question remains, is he a serious threat. I suspect not. It’s probably like all the American lefties who get concerned about “The Family.”

  3. smitemouth
    9 February 2017 @ 4:09 pm


    You can look at the website for the Eurasian Youth Movement:. It’s the youth wing (Hitler Youth) of the Eurasian Party which is headed by Dugin.

    You can also look it up on Wikipedia.

    Our Union has one absolute enemy. It is the USA. This is the beginning and the end of our hatred.

  4. Greg Krehbiel Greg Krehbiel
    9 February 2017 @ 4:17 pm

    So … not our friend. ๐Ÿ™‚

  5. Scott Wicker
    9 February 2017 @ 4:44 pm

    It looks like Dugin’s too far out of the mainstream to be much of a threat. Interesting nut case, however, and in classic Russian style!

  6. Greg Krehbiel Greg Krehbiel
    9 February 2017 @ 4:44 pm

    From the guy who loves his Russian nutcases. ๐Ÿ™‚

    I still remember fondly reading Rasputin in your play.

  7. Scott Wicker
    9 February 2017 @ 4:53 pm

    Yes, thanks for your help with that, Greg! Someday, I’d like to rewrite the play, but I’m busy with other things now (including some Russian language study).

  8. William
    9 February 2017 @ 5:16 pm

    QUOTE: It looks like Duginโ€™s too far out of the mainstream to be much of a threat.

    I wonder if someone said something similar 18 moths ago…”It looks like Trump’s too far out of the mainstream to be much of a competitor for the White House”. Albeit some things have very low probability, there’s always the possibility.

  9. pentamom
    11 February 2017 @ 8:45 am

    I don’t see why someone would have said that about Trump, because he’s nothing if not mainstream. He’s mainstream in a loud, weird, undisciplined, eclectic way, but there’s nothing really out of the mainstream about his views.