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Obama High School

by Greg Krehbiel on 18 October 2017

I just saw a headline that a school named after Jefferson Davis is going to be renamed for Obama.

But in 2035, there will be a movement to eliminate all references to anyone who ever opposed same-sex marriage, so it will have to be renamed again.

2017-10-18  »  Greg Krehbiel

Talkback x 12

  1. smitemouth
    18 October 2017 @ 9:56 am

    In the USA, there is no good reason for any school to be named after Jefferson Davis, RE Lee, Benedict Arnold, Julius Rosenberg, or any other traitor.

  2. William
    18 October 2017 @ 12:06 pm

    Seems those currently in authority feel it’s a solid decision. Yet, it will be interesting to see if history ultimately determines if Obama’s legacy was of the ilk of Jefferson Davis.

  3. Greg Krehbiel GregK
    18 October 2017 @ 12:50 pm

    SM is right. Schools should not be named after Jefferson Davis.

    And schools should be named after Obama. He was the first (partly) black president, and that is worth celebrating.

    My cynical comment was simply to point out that those who are seeking perfection in people from the past will eventually eliminate (or rewrite) all references to the past.

  4. William
    18 October 2017 @ 1:15 pm

    @Greg, understood. Yet, it will be interesting to see how time treats those who are considered noteworthy in this era and the criteria used to honor them.

    That said, I didn’t get the sense that some were seeking “perfection” from historical figures (after all no one could meet that standard). It seemed they were recognizing that some positions held by these figures or reasons they were noteworthy were so antithetical to the ideals of the US, that the country should reconsider them being held up as patriots.

    Nevertheless, it seems this school will join a number of others that have already incorporated Obama’s name.

  5. smitemouth
    18 October 2017 @ 9:11 pm

    First, there is no partly about Obama being black. Go ask a Judge Roy Moore supporter in Alabama, and they’ll probably tell you Obama is a n*gger. That’s the way our society rolls.

    I would think any president except Nixon is game for having a school named after him–especially in their home state. Doesn’t have to be special. They probably ought to name schools after medal or honor winners before they name them after presidents, imho.

  6. William
    18 October 2017 @ 11:08 pm

    Technically speaking, Greg is correct that Obama is of a mixed heritage biologically. That said, SM is correct that socially it doesn’t seem to matter (in some circles) if someone is mixed, they are treated as fully black (especially if they possess characteristically black physical features). It seems only people like Rachel Dolezal get to “choose” at will.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/26/rachel-dolezal-white-woman-who-identifies-as-black-now-jobless-may-soon-be-homeless.html

  7. smitemouth
    19 October 2017 @ 12:32 am

    Obama is from Gryffindor. He’s not a pure blood. I am sure Trump is Slytherin.

  8. pentamom
    19 October 2017 @ 9:19 am

    Because all those people in Alabama are a bunch of bigots.

    😉

  9. William
    19 October 2017 @ 7:01 pm

    Interesting commentary on racial attitudes in Alabama from residents or those visiting. https://www.thetoptens.com/most-racists-states-us/alabama-459202.asp

  10. pentamom
    19 October 2017 @ 9:01 pm

    I won’t deny that you might be able to establish that one state has a worse problem with racial attitudes than another. But I don’t see how it’s not a hypocritical sort of bigotry to simply identify a state and its residents with a particular evil attitude. How is that different from bigotry against a sex or an ethnicity that has demonstrable differences from others?

  11. smitemouth
    19 October 2017 @ 9:31 pm

    Not the whole state. Just don’t like Moore and his supporters. It’s no surprise after Goldwater’s opposition to the Civil Rights Act and Nixon’s southern strategy that the south has gone republicans.

    In my city in the south, it took 4 trials to convict an off duty white cop of hunting down and killing his daughter’s black boyfriend which happened last night. And, then it was announced that a sheriff deputy that had killed a man who was detained on the ground is getting out after 1.5 years of a 4 year sentence. And, another white cop who killed an unarmed black man was acquitted. I read the comments on FB. these idiots think the cops ought to be judge, jury, and executioner.

  12. William
    19 October 2017 @ 10:15 pm

    @pentamom, not sure if you were responding to my post. If so, I’m not clear how your point related to it. Since smitemouth and you were discussing Alabama, I thought it would be interesting to see if I could get a sense of local racial attitudes. It’s one thing to speculate from afar but quite another to get feedback from those who are exposed to it directly. That said, I wouldn’t say the reference was totally representative of all Alabamians. Yet, it seems racism and bigotry are not a thing of the distant past for these individuals.

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