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“Education” on display

by Greg Krehbiel on 13 March 2017

I suspect these students have not learned to think because they haven’t been challenged with any ideas outside their liberal bubble.

2017-03-13  »  Greg Krehbiel

Talkback x 14

  1. William
    13 March 2017 @ 10:57 am

    Well done exercise! This tangibly demonstrates the bias inculcated into contemporary culture. It seemed like a no-brainer for the politically correct choices. Yet, when faced with something counter-cultural they couldn’t readily apply the supposed logic they used to justify their previous responses.

  2. Ken Crawford
    13 March 2017 @ 1:50 pm

    There are two issues that our society generally refuses to acknowledge for ideological reasons that could ironically make this trick easy for these students to overcome and keep their opinions.

    1. Society must have a limit to which it will extend freedom of religion. We don’t allow sacrificing of virgins last time I checked (and with good reason). Thus one could easily use this justification for why they’re not willing to extend this sort of liberty to people who reject gay marriage on religious grounds. (To be clear: I think they’d be wrong, but it can logically be used as a justification). Nevertheless, because our culture wants to pretend there’s nothing wrong with certain religions, these students are completely oblivious to the concept that freedom of religion having its limits and thus can’t imagine employing it in their defense.

    2. Society refuses to think about how our religious beliefs affect everything we think and do, particularly for Christians. This is because in our society we want to do whatever we want without thinking about the broader implications and consequences. So we try to wall off religion as not being relevant to most of it. This affects their view of Christianity more than other religions because it is the “native” religion of society. Thus they think it is stupid for a Christian to let their faith affect something like participating gay wedding. However, for a foreign faith they don’t understand (they don’t understand Christianity, but they *think* they do), they’re more willing to grant that its a valid expression of their religion than they are with a Christian.

    I guess #2 loops back around to #1 in the sense that the result would be the same “it’s OK to have limits to religious freedom”, but it comes from a very different place (familiarity of Christianity (#2) vs. foreign-ness of virgin sacrifice (#1)).

  3. Robin R.
    13 March 2017 @ 2:08 pm

    Go anywhere and inquire into the things people believe, and you will find inconsistencies. At a college campus, however, the people will be less likely to punch you in the face than they will at a bar, for example.

  4. smitemouth
    13 March 2017 @ 3:05 pm

    At Waterbury they attacked the speaker and a professor. At Stanford there are videos of students reputedly destroying campus Repug signs. On the other side, I’m sure BYU isn’t going to invite the head of Planned Parenthood to discuss what motivates that organization to render free healthcare to indigent women.

  5. Greg Krehbiel Greg Krehbiel
    13 March 2017 @ 3:10 pm

    @SM, perhaps, but Liberty University invites liberals to speak and treats them with respect. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/bernie-sanders-ted-kennedy-liberty-university/405469/

  6. Greg Krehbiel Greg Krehbiel
    13 March 2017 @ 3:11 pm

    @Ken, you’re right that if they were to think about it — rather than just regurgitating the “narrative” — they might be able to come up with something that’s half coherent and justifiable.

  7. smitemouth
    13 March 2017 @ 3:40 pm

    Middlebury not Waterbury.

    Did they invite Hillary too? Or was inviting Bernie a way of giving the finger to Hillary?

  8. Greg Krehbiel Greg Krehbiel
    13 March 2017 @ 3:41 pm

    No idea. My point was that they have invited liberals and treated them with respect.

  9. Robin R.
    13 March 2017 @ 3:58 pm

    And do liberals absolutely always or even for the most part react violently when there is someone from the “other side” in their midst?

  10. Greg Krehbiel Greg Krehbiel
    13 March 2017 @ 4:03 pm

    Who would know?

    There are lots of stories about liberals doing precisely that, and I see it in my own personal life. I see it among conservatives, but to a lesser degree.

    Everyone has a pretty well-documented tendency to accept things that confirm their prejudices and reject things that don’t. Liberals and conservatives do it. You do it. I do it.

    But it seems that in the U.S. at this particular time in history, it’s mostly the liberals who throw fits and shout down the opposition. Stories of liberals doing that are a dime a dozen. Stories of conservatives doing it are harder to come by.

  11. Robin R.
    13 March 2017 @ 4:07 pm

    You should take a little trip to Redneckville and try espousing liberal doctrines there, and I think you’ll get a very different impression.

  12. Greg Krehbiel Greg Krehbiel
    13 March 2017 @ 4:08 pm

    Could be. And maybe somebody should document that and put out some YouTube videos of rednecks shouting down liberals, refusing to let them speak, rioting, etc.

  13. Robin R.
    13 March 2017 @ 4:13 pm

    More likely just punching them. I wouldn’t want risk such an experiment.

  14. Robin R.
    13 March 2017 @ 4:16 pm

    *I wouldn’t want to risk