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I don’t like John McCain

by Greg Krehbiel on 28 July 2017

I don’t trust him, and I never have. I didn’t vote for him for president. He’s always seemed like a flake to me.

But I don’t think it’s fair to blame McCain for the failure of this awful, stupid, half-assed Republican effort to repeal Obamacare.

From his statement about his vote.

“I’ve stated time and time again that one of the major failures of Obamacare was that it was rammed through Congress by Democrats on a strict-party line basis without a single Republican vote. We should not make the mistakes of the past that has led to Obamacare’s collapse, including in my home state of Arizona where premiums are skyrocketing and health care providers are fleeing the marketplace.

“We must now return to the correct way of legislating and send the bill back to committee, hold hearings, receive input from both sides of aisle, heed the recommendations of nation’s governors, and produce a bill that finally delivers affordable health care for the American people. We must do the hard work our citizens expect of us and deserve.”

Exactly right.

2017-07-28  »  Greg Krehbiel

Talkback x 16

  1. Dave Krehbiel Dave Krehbiel
    28 July 2017 @ 9:49 am

    I agree with the above.

    I wonder, I remember hearing at some point that it is against Senate rules for a senator to criticize another senator.

    That never made much sense to me, until now. How can we make progress if anyone who tries to change anything is immediately labeled as hating minorities and giving gifts to millionaires and throwing granny off the cliff?

  2. Craig
    28 July 2017 @ 8:51 pm

    Regardless of the process used to get there, the Republicans had a chance to repeal Obamacare, and McCain helped torpedo that chance. I can understand why the Democrats voted against repeal – they are committed to Oabamcare as a matter of principle. But McCain and Murkowski ran on repealing Obamacare. When they had the chance to actually get rid of it, they vote against it because the process was not bipartisan?? They can spin whatever tale helps them sleep at night, but they broke their promise and broke faith.

  3. pentamom
    28 July 2017 @ 9:28 pm

    Not buying it.

    Is it unfortunate that these issues have become too partisan?

    Yes.

    Does that mean we should refuse to fix anything until people who don’t want it fixed, agree it should be fixed?

    Nope.

  4. William
    28 July 2017 @ 10:49 pm

    Similar to McCain, Mitch McConnell once stated, “when the Senate is allowed to work the way it was designed to, it arrives at a result acceptable to people all along the political spectrum. But, if it is an assembly line for one party’s legislative agenda it creates instability and strife rather than good, stable law”.

    Democrats erred significantly in the partisan process they used to resolve healthcare issues. Yet, Republicans haven’t lived up to McConnell’s words. They’ve not only repeated the errors they publicly criticized Democrats for but exacerbated some of them.

    So, we are where we are and there’s no going back. There’s mud on both sides of the fence. Yet, the question that remains is…will both sides get over themselves and work together to resolve an issue that impacts all Americans? Or, will they continue their partisan shenanigans at the expense of citizens they “say” they are working for? Sadly, I’m not very optimistic that either will live up to McCain’s nor McConnell’s ideals.

  5. sm
    29 July 2017 @ 1:53 am

    What a bunch of losers blaming McCain. They had 7 years to come up with something better and they got squat.

  6. William
    29 July 2017 @ 9:03 am

    @SM, you hit the nail on the head…the challenge with the recent Republican effort is it didn’t live up to the promises they nor Trump made. It wasn’t a better solution (despite having years to develop one). Instead of taking a step back and reevaluating the impact, they forged ahead with a series of bad bills. I suspect their efforts were more politically motivated than what was in the best interest of citizens. If it was truly about the people (as they often claim) I suspect “let ACA fail” wouldn’t be the response when they didn’t get their way.

    Look at what happened this week with the Russian sanctions bill…nearly unanimous bi-partisan support (to the point it could be overridden if it were vetoed). So, they’ve demonstrated the “ability” to work together, now it’s time for them to apply the “willingness” to do the same for another critical issue. If it’s “really” about the people, they will find a way work together to find a “better” solution (even if they have to puke during the process). If it’s just about “winning”…they will continue their partisan games and allow citizens to suffer the consequences. Let’s see what happens.

  7. pentamom
    29 July 2017 @ 9:17 am

    It’s definitely a group failure. But McCain played his part in ensuring that it would be a failure.

  8. William
    29 July 2017 @ 9:34 am

    Republicans have consistently agreed the process used to create the ACA hurt the country and was a colossal failure…why would they want to repeat it? It seems McCain saved the Republicans from repeating the error they have decried for YEARS! There’s nothing stopping Republicans from continuing to try to find a “better” healthcare solution. Maybe it’s time McConnell takes his own advice and lead the party to follow it.

  9. Craig
    29 July 2017 @ 10:19 am

    McCain campaigned to repeal and replace Obamacare. When the time came, he broke that promise. There is nothing honorable about that. That’s not integrity.

    For those celebrating that he saved the GOP from themselves, I suspect you’re just relieved the ACA was not repealed. Which is fine – if you believe in the law, I can certainly understand that. But let’s stop pretending that McCain acted out of integrity or some kind of concern for bipartisanship or Senate tradition.

    He had no problem voting for repeal in 2015. *Now*, when all he had to do was walk the ball across the goal line to score the winning touchdown, he is worried about the other side of the process?? Sorry. That dog won’t hunt.

  10. William
    29 July 2017 @ 1:50 pm

    Well, if want to speak of “integrity”, the fish rots from the head. McConnell and his leadership team didn’t exercise much integrity given they didn’t follow their own guidance concerning the legislative process.

    As I understand, the commitment was to not only repeal and replace…but to do it with something better. Trump went as far as to commit to having healthcare for all and it would be less expensive. Doesn’t seem what they proposed fully met those commitments. As a matter of fact, some went on record saying that they didn’t want the last bill they voted on to become law because it was so bad. Given that, wouldn’t it have been disingenuous to pass something just to “check the box”?

    That said, McCain and others that voted nay didn’t eliminate the possibility to keep their promise. The door is still open for Republicans to repeal and replace. They just have to come up with an option they can all agree upon (that fully fulfills the promise). Or, goodness forbid, follow their own legislative guidance and involve Democrats in the process. Now, that dog can hunt…but we’ll see if they let it.

  11. Craig
    29 July 2017 @ 2:11 pm

    They all said “repeal and replace” but obviously had no plan. I fully grant that all Republicans that ran on that platform without a plan were short on integrity. But McCain’s was much more blantant. I see it as a betrayal, which is why his votes on the matter last week cause such a visceral reaction on my part. I won’t let “but we have to back to regular order” be used as an excuse for him.

    Now, having said that, yes, I do hope the Senate moves on in a more bipartisan fashion to fix the broken state of our health care coverage system (health care delivery is second to none). I think it’s time for Congress to seriously entertain a public option, or basic coverage plan that Mark Cuban brainstormed. The window to recover free market principles in the health care insurance markets has closed.

  12. Craig
    29 July 2017 @ 2:27 pm

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    In what way was the “skinny repeal” bad? It repealed the individual and employer mandates and killed some of the ACA-introduced taxes. I think their protests were a tad overblown.

  13. William
    29 July 2017 @ 5:46 pm

    I suspect it’s a matter of perspective. It’s likely betrayal if one sees not voting yes as not supporting partisan politics. It’s likely an unfortunate delay if one sees it as not voting on something that could become law that doesn’t fully satisfy the commitment made to voters and does not improve the system.

    As for the skinny repeal…I’ll let Lindsey Graham explain in his own words as to why he thought it was “fraud” and “terrible”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC2dMmPtPms

  14. Craig
    29 July 2017 @ 6:04 pm

    McCain voted against the replacement bills that had been crafted and open to all member ideas, and he hasn’t offered a replacement bill of his own. So I from both angles, he didn’t do what he said he would do.

    As I suspected, the protests over the skinny bill were nothing but smoke.

  15. William
    29 July 2017 @ 10:05 pm

    Although he didn’t offer a full replacement bill, he did offer amendments. I’d say that was relatively good for a man who just had brain surgery and was trying to keep up with that stealth, fast moving train McConnell was driving last week.

    https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/7/senator-john-mccain-files-amendements-to-health-care-legislation

    Nevertheless, people will have their own opinions. Yet, I don’t blame him solely for this failure…despite not abiding by “party” lies…oops, lines.

  16. Craig
    30 July 2017 @ 2:36 pm

    Those whopping three amendments he offered did nothing to advance repeal and replace. If anything, they would have served to shore up the very system he campaigned to repeal and replace. Any way you slice it, he and Murkowski (who also ran on repeal and replace) voted for the status quo.

    So the Senate returns to regular order (maybe?) while millions of Americans continue to suffer under the failure of ACA.

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