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If this had happened under Bush …

by Greg Krehbiel on 10 May 2013

… we’d never hear the end of it.

IRS Apologizes for Targeting Conservative Groups

Every abuses authority. Everybody. That’s why we can’t trust authority, and that’s why we need effective checks and balances.

The media is supposed to be one of those checks, but they are so transparently biased they regularly fail in that role.

If this had happened under a Republican administration, the media would question and badger and investigate and whine and moan for months.

The liberal media will “cover” it. They’ll mention it. They’ll say it was a bad thing. Then they’ll move on.

The difference is often not in whether or not they cover a story, but in how they cover it, and how dogged they are in pursuing it.

-- 2013-05-10  »  Greg Krehbiel

Talkback x 10

  1. RootCzar
    10 May 2013 @ 5:23 pm


    the IRS mea-culpas about zeroing in on anti tax groups … and nothing happened. this story wouldn’t really have any legs regardless of the political directions. i’m going to go back to trying to feign interest in benghazi…. like everybody else.

  2. Derek
    10 May 2013 @ 11:28 pm

    Remember, Obama “joked” about the IRS going after those who disagreed with him. Guess it wasn’t a joke. As Glenn Reynolds commented, this is banana republic stuff.

    Additionally, Benghazi isn’t a “yawn” – four people were murdered. But I guess when you’re trying to maintain power at any cost, what’s a few dead people.

  3. DSM
    11 May 2013 @ 8:38 am

    RootCzar: that you have to feign interest in Benghazi, and would publicly admit this, is surprising. But to be fair, you’ve made it clear in the past that your biggest concerns are with the cast and not the plot, so I guess it makes a certain kind of sense. The survivors are people you like, and the dead are people you didn’t even know, and “what difference does it make”, and “Benghazi happened a long time ago”.

    I’m not sure what you mean by “and nothing happened”, though, as if this was all just an internal IRS matter and never left the building. Do you mean that the lawyers and accountants required to handle the matters will retroactively work pro bono? Will the gov’t write a cheque? Will the work that could have been done but wasn’t while dealing with inappropriate questions from the IRS suddenly have happened?

    SLAPP lawsuits — strategic lawsuits against public participation — can be used to intimidate opposition, and — to quote from the Wikipedia page:

    The typical SLAPP plaintiff does not normally expect to win the lawsuit. The plaintiff’s goals are accomplished if the defendant succumbs to fear, intimidation, mounting legal costs or simple exhaustion and abandons the criticism. A SLAPP may also intimidate others from participating in the debate.

    The principle applies more broadly, including to IRS investigations: the process can be the punishment.

  4. DSM
    11 May 2013 @ 9:09 am

    BTW, just as as reminder of the scale of the inquiry, here are some of the lowlights of what the IRS was asking.

  5. Greg Krehbiel Greg Krehbiel
    11 May 2013 @ 9:48 am

    Root, you should work for a newspaper. You’ve got it down pat.

    DSM, good info. Those questions from the IRS certainly used up a lot of lawyer time for the defendants.

  6. pentamom pentamom
    11 May 2013 @ 12:32 pm

    DSM, that list is INSANE.

  7. RootCzar
    11 May 2013 @ 10:01 pm

    ah yes, all the speculative pontificating on my beliefs … (ahem, DSM) and oddly all wrong. and what are those quotes … are you attempting to convey that I stated those things? what kind of false, pretentious and condescending bs is that? again, abjectly wrong.

    my point, wasn’t to dishonor or be apathetic to the loss of our american public servicemen … but to convey a yawning rejection of the partisan idiot winded witch hunt that keeps rambling on, attempting to find any capricious chord that might resonate, with somebody, somewhere.

    And yes, I’ve seen the IRS debacle described perhaps best as … “Nixonian” … but it boils down to being another non-issue that resulted in essentially nothing, until the IRS confessed to it; then it became a media circus, full of hobo clowns that nobody wants to watch perform. I’m not saying it’s not wrongful, but it has no legs in the media because nobody bled or died … like people did in benghazi … and nobody cares about that either. sad? sure, but sad but true.

  8. DSM
    13 May 2013 @ 1:02 pm

    “are you attempting to convey that I stated those things? what kind of false, pretentious and condescending bs is that?”

    If you paid as much attention to Benghazi as this Canadian, you would have immediately recognized those as references to lines from your former Secretary of State (Hillary Clinton, suggesting that the motives about which the gov’t seems to have lied didn’t matter) and your White House press secretary (Jay Carney, suggesting that Benghazi happened a long time ago and he was unaware of any whistleblowers coming forward in the interim, right before various whistleblowers testified).

    Given that you consider my assumption that you’re actually familiar with the controversies you’re discussing condescending, I’ll try to calibrate my expectations of your knowledge appropriately downward in the future.

    Simply calling something a non-issue doesn’t make it one.

  9. RootCzar
    13 May 2013 @ 6:31 pm

    oh, right. the anecdotal straw man quotes … right. right. mid-sentence subject shift with no segue, from me to a partial hillary clinton quote… such clever literary license! i see … sure. clearly, foxnewsesque soundbite mastery and savvy deployment, displays one’s understanding of the most critical elements to said issues. and you so adeptly let fly, a two-fer!

    forgive me for being so ill-attentive … somebody must have been jingling their car keys, and distracted me for the past several months. my most sincere apologies for being so alarmingly uninformed.

    clearly, calling it an issue DOES make it one, and I’d bet hannity has the crackerjack soundbites to prove it!

  10. DSM
    18 May 2013 @ 12:32 pm

    RootCzar: it seems strange to call referencing the two most infamous and widely-discussed quotations on the subject under discussion a subject shift– this is like saying “but then you probably think I didn’t build that” when discussing Obamanomics, or “yeah, ‘mission accomplished’” when discussing Iraq.

    You should be a little embarrassed not to have picked up on it — especially since you know you didn’t say them, so there was an excellent chance someone else had, and I here there’s this thing called “Google” which would have helped — but it’s not the worst thing in the world. It does suggest that you may not know quite enough about the topic to decide whether yawns are justified or not.

    Anyway, consider yourself forgiven!